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Rec, airport budgets discussed

Aquatic Center could require $19,500 in tax money

January 29, 2013

Swimmers at the aquatic center in Fort Dodge will likely find that not all of the site’s slides will be open in the evenings this summer....

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justwords

Jan-29-13 8:09 AM

Did they discuss the amount of tax dollars needed for Lakeside or Citizen Central (C2)?

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truthhurts

Jan-29-13 8:45 AM

isn't it time that lori branderhorst step aside or step down or better yet be removed from this position? she has been unable to oversee a department that requires the expertise and organization skills to successfully keep this municipality afloat. we're already cutting services at the aquatic center? she is constantly bringing in outside resources and not relying on the local businesses to tend to the department's needs. why not support the tax dollars that are supporting your perennial shortcomings. if it weren't for several outstanding persons in that same department to help keep things rolling in the right direction who knows where we'd be. maybe it's time to promote one of them and give them the much deserving opportunity to keep things rolling in a positive direction.

kudos to rhonda chambers and her undying efforts to make our airport a proud and ongoing success and viable asset to this area. thank you!

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casper

Jan-29-13 9:16 AM

That didn't take long,2.25 seasons and already needs tax dollars.How much did it lose in the 2012 season?

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Anderson

Jan-29-13 9:40 AM

Anyone surprised? More fool you.

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GangnumFarmer

Jan-29-13 10:12 AM

I took the kids to the aquatic center shortly after they opened and was really surprised there weren't any chairs, anywhere. They should of told us something right then & there. How hard is it to order the what is needed to make this park a success? She had to have some idea of when it was going to be opening, what else got overlooked? If she couldn't maintain what she already had to work with why would we let her be in charge of this as well. She's been offered assistance by numerous successful business leaders to help out in all areas of concessions to improve not only efficiency but most important profitability. Bottom line she needs to be sent packing. Time to promote within or find a suitable candidate for the position.

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TAXEDENOUGH

Jan-29-13 11:58 AM

I hope it don't go the way Sunkissed Golf Course went. We spend a ton of money building these things. Maybe it is time to change operating managers. I can't see how we can keep operating like this. How come the fees are not being raised to cover these costs. I'm paying for the pool through my taxes but I don't think I should have to subsidize the users. Raise the rates. You raised the rates at the golf course to cover added expenses and that is the correct way to do it. If Walmart don't make a profit you think the tax payer should cover their operating costs? Maybe we should hire more consultants and engineers to study this shortage at the AQ center.

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amazingnot

Jan-29-13 12:17 PM

1. Hire someone to run the pool who really wants to see it be successful, it seems to me we are paying a lot of salary and not getting much in return. 2. Why have the pool open for so long in the morning for exercise, is it really that busy, it seems to me that the pool should be more available to the largest number of people who will use it. 3. If the pool actually was open in the evenings past the supper hour I feel more families would come to enjoy it, but when you close it at 6:30 that does not give time for supper and going to the pool. 4. There are lights at the pool, this means it should not be a problem to be open if its starting to get dark. 5. If there is a need to close slides because of attendance, do so, but rotate what is being closed so the whole facility can still be used. 6. This pool can survive if the wants and hours of the people using it are taken into consideration, if staffing is the problem then hire people willing to work when needed.

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duke

Jan-29-13 5:11 PM

Where are all the big shots that were pushing so hard for the A/C ?. Maybe they should chip in a little to take up the slack.

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jamesf

Jan-29-13 7:00 PM

I thought all roads leading to the water park would have to be widened to handle all of the new traffic to local businness. Duke nailed it. Where are all the people who loved this idea?

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ftdodger

Jan-29-13 7:07 PM

I bet we could hire McClure Engineering to study the water park on how to make it more profitable?

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Minnieiowa1

Jan-29-13 8:12 PM

Most of the comments below have hit the nail right on the head. Lori needs to go. I know for a fact she does not support the local businesses whose tax dollars are paying her wages. I wouldnt have a problem with my rates for the yearly pass going up if it were going to be open later in the evening but to close at 7 pm is ridiculous. I work till 5 and by time you get home, have supper and get ready for the pool, there isnt much time left. I agree with AmazingNOt - the pool doesnt need to be open for exercise so early in the morning. Open it at 11 am. Last summer she closed early on one of the hottest days of the year. Its time for Lori to go and promote from within. As was said earlier there are several very capable people in that department that would do a much better job.

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TAXEDENOUGH

Jan-29-13 8:13 PM

This is like the crosstown connector certain people are pushing. There are a lot of us that think it will actually harm downtown and cause congestion and traffic problems. But will probably build it and when it does not pan out all the pushers will be no where to say, well we made a mistake. You know the taxpayer will get stuck with more bills when they tear down the abandon buildings along 1st south. I still am not happy with the City paying over a half million to tear down the old IBP plant.

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SharonO

Jan-29-13 8:30 PM

I hate to say it but my grandparents were right...we argued over voting yes for the pool. They said it would be something they would make so expensive and so out of they way the average guy wouldnt use it. We bought a pass the first year, half the time slides were closef or they had swim lessons so this pool or that one was closed. Our pass didnt get us in for the exercise in the morning like we thought. It was just so screwy we havent bothered since.

set to buy a pass this year

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SharonO

Jan-29-13 8:31 PM

But now maybe not

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Realitycheck

Jan-30-13 12:12 AM

Does it make sense to open it at 6 am for a few early birds to come in and swim but close it in the evening when families could come and enjoy it? Also, It's a $135 less to get a family pass at Humboldt, or for $30 less than the FD indivual pass you can get a pass for the entire season to Adventureland and use both the parks. Evidently charging more and serving less is the motto of our aquatic center.

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FDFIRST

Jan-30-13 9:09 AM

Tar and feathers seem to be in order!

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Dodger

Jan-30-13 9:54 AM

The ignorance and assumptions made on this site never cease to amaze me. Thank you, everyone, for reaffirming my beliefs that the comment section for Messenger articles is a cesspool of stupidity and conceit.

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Anderson

Jan-30-13 2:18 PM

So cast a pearl or two, Dodger! The swine are waiting.

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Minnieiowa1

Jan-30-13 3:03 PM

so Dodger - just what are the assumptions that are being made? Not an assumption that closing the pool at 700 is early, that the local business arent being supported by Lori? The only assumption I see is that you are saying everyone on this blog is stupid and conceited, when in fact I would assume by that statement you are the conceited one.

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workhorse

Jan-30-13 3:20 PM

Dodger might have been a little abrasive with his/her comment but I understand the frustration. I would love to know how many of the folks that have posted about this subject have ever attended a parks and rec commission meeting or for that matter a council meeting and made their concerns known in a respectful manner. You know the answer is few or none. I only suggest that you had better understand Lori's job before you start chanting for her firing.

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Minnieiowa1

Jan-30-13 6:58 PM

for your info - we have made our concerns about the department known to a city council member and nothing was done. Can't speak for the rest of the people on here as to whether they have or not. we need a housecleaning in that department starting at the top.

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truthhurts

Jan-30-13 7:08 PM

way to call everyone out workhorse! nice to see all the other response you got. sad or par for the course? i like your style, props! i've told her in person how much of an inadequate job she is doing. i'm sure i'm not the only one. i've been to been to several parks & recreation commission meeting and not only voiced my opinion but saw how truly unorganized she really is as she stumbles around trying to make up facts and figures that just don't match up or balance out. should almost be a youtube fail compilation video. respectful manner, no, i'm sorry but it just didn't go down that way, maybe she does deserve a little more respect than she gets but lets see something to earn that respect. she did this city a great justice by stepping in and hitting the ground running when & how she did. maybe given the resources she has today things might of been different. as it is now i really would like to see 1 of 2 that are currently in that department be promoted and given the ch

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SharonO

Jan-30-13 9:01 PM

I have been to meeting and voiced my opinion. Spoke to my councilman and know that several friends called their councilmen and the mayor to voice our concerns with the money we were spending versus the service received at the aquatic center. The only bright side is at least now its not a surprise when we go in the evening and the slides are closed...forgot that part of the problem. I have young children who were heartbroken when we arrived at the pool and the fun stuff was closed. I don't know that firing is in order or that she is a problem but something is. Lets figure it out. We would go everynight after dinner if they were open till 8. 9 would be better...

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SharonO

Jan-30-13 9:03 PM

What is meant by Lori supporting local business?

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GangnumFarmer

Jan-30-13 9:14 PM

what is meant by not supporting local business is there are many projects that have been given to outside vendors & contractors, most time with out putting it out for open bid. i understand knowing someone from out of town and know they are more than qualified to do the job but when you have the same quality being performed in your own back yard by the same folks who are paying you salary. it's one thing to go out of the area for something that we can't provide around here.

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