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PPEL passes in FD

Measure approved by 51.7 percent of voters

February 6, 2013

Fort Dodge voters approved an increase of the physical plant and equipment levy Tuesday....

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manofewwords

Feb-08-13 7:35 PM

I do hope when the school board election is held this fall that plenty of people here, who have been critical of the board, step up to run. Three seats are up for grabs in September. Go get 'em!

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skywalker

Feb-08-13 9:03 AM

Justwords, I found the internet sites to be fairly accurate. To clarify, there is a "city" portion of the property tax and then what is referred to as the "overall" portion of the property tax. The overall property tax includes the sum totals of the county, school, city, etc.." The city portion of course, is the part the City Council just raised. The overall portion would include the PPEL. You brought up a great point on your other posts on this. There was another comment that Fort Dodge was the highest of the 15 largest city's in Iowa. In my opinion, I have to agree with that for now. All property taxes are constantly changing though.

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TAXEDENOUGH

Feb-07-13 11:21 PM

jamesf, I agree with you. It takes a good teacher to educate our children. A fancy school only empresses the people who think they are above everybody else and does nothing to educate anybody.

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Whatever

Feb-07-13 2:55 PM

Ummm skywalker I just looked at a couple of counties in Iowa and Polk, Pottawattamie, Jasper, Linn, and many more have much higher property taxes than Webster...I am thinking you just made that up to make the PPEL sound like it is making things worse for us. Really? Make sure you research things before you say them.

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dodgerpower

Feb-07-13 11:18 AM

Lets have a "rubber match" 3rd vote and see what happens.

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justwords

Feb-06-13 11:52 PM

SKY-could you please look up the property tax rates of iowa and get back to us...hint...the answers are in other posts on this site if you don't have the time to google it.

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Minnieiowa1

Feb-06-13 10:07 PM

Taxed - my parents are both retired and were in support of this. So not all the the "snowbirds" voted no.

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skywalker

Feb-06-13 9:46 PM

From what I have seen there has not been good financial management in the past, and expenses have been greatly exaggerated before. Second votes obtain by special resolutions to bypass normal procedures along with claims that taxes were reduced earlier (When they needed that much money?). Doubling down to get the max amount. Do I need to go on? The smart kids will go to Harvard whether this was passed or not, but the community may not survive the repercussions of having the highest property tax in Iowa.

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jamesf

Feb-06-13 7:59 PM

Taxed, I may be wrong, but I thought teachers and not shiney new schools were the main reason for well educated kids.

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justwords

Feb-06-13 5:50 PM

TAXED-Snow Birds are typically retired people, so are you suggesting that retired or elderly folks wouldn't be in support of PPEL? Why wouldn't they?

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bububud

Feb-06-13 5:36 PM

Dissappointed with the turnout but glad it passed! Apathy is such a problem in Fort Dodge! Why is moving forward in any way, it seems, so contested and divisive all of the time? We certainly are unique among Iowa communities!

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TAXEDENOUGH

Feb-06-13 3:41 PM

Lucky the snow birds were gone or we would probably have been looking at another election in 2 months. They have the money now but I hope they use it wisely. Just cause it passed does not mean you have to spend every nickle as fast as you can. Maybe a frugal approach on spending this money will help convince the people that voted against this to maybe vote for it in ten years. I hope we don't start buying flower pots and other frills that are not needed to educate our children.

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dodgerpower

Feb-06-13 3:22 PM

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BornInFD2

Feb-06-13 2:18 PM

fyiguy makes a good point and was what I was thinking while reading this story. The writer of this article didn't explain one iota why the 'special election' was held and a re-vote opportunity transpired. Not shocking all things considered. As far as people not wanting nice things in FD, they may want them, they just don't want to pay for them. If they don't ever plan on using them, then they likely don't want them and surely don't want to pay for them.

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Dodger

Feb-06-13 2:18 PM

fyi guy -- you need candidates to vote in an election. Unless you want to vote an empty chair in over some of our current school board members, this is what we have. Many of them run unopposed term after term. Again, the apathy in FD is much worse than the problem solving and decision making itself. So many backseat drivers.

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fdtaxpayer

Feb-06-13 2:17 PM

Didn't i hear that all the slides and such would not be avialable this summer during certain times dues to not being able to cover the costs. I have no problem with progress but we need to look ahead. What next close it on certain days because we can not afford to open it.

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Whatever

Feb-06-13 2:12 PM

Stuck with the aquatics center? My kids and their friends love it! I agree there are far too many that don't want to make improvements to FD. However, there are leaders with in the district that mislead - so it is hard to know who too trust. I did vote yes, but I did it for the kids and staff who are more concerned with the kids and their futures.

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fyiguy1

Feb-06-13 11:52 AM

Lets have a second vote for school board members, since I didnt like the outcome of the first.

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Dodger

Feb-06-13 11:28 AM

I will say this though: the turnout was a joke. To have only 1,700 yes votes despite the huge public push to support the PPEL is awful. If this town is to truly progress and flourish, it needs the strong support of its forward-thinking residents. This didn't exactly serve as a ringing endorsement.

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Dodger

Feb-06-13 11:23 AM

The people who complain about this, the aquatic center, etc. are part of the reason this town has been stuck in neutral for the past 30 years. They're afraid of success. They need to get out of the way and let FD move on. It isn't 1980 anymore, and Hormel isn't coming back anytime soon.

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Anderson

Feb-06-13 10:24 AM

17% turnout...WOW!

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forprogress

Feb-06-13 9:44 AM

The expansion of Koch, Calcium Products, C&S, and the building of Cargill and CJ Bio put us on the cusp of something huge for our region. The people moving here, or being recruited to move here read the Messenger, tour the town, and ask around to see what the future holds for Ft. Dodge. The Aquatic Center, passing of the PPEL, walking trails, new Middle School and all the other things bring people here. Bumpy roads are never brought up as a reason to turn down a job in FD.

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forprogress

Feb-06-13 9:40 AM

This is great news. We need to invest in the FUTURE growth of our community and investing in our schools and school systems should be part of that plan. The people that gripe about the Aquatic Center, PPEL ,and other community development initiatives have no clue about recruiting employees to the area. These things are needed if we want to be anything more than a retirement community.

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casper

Feb-06-13 9:36 AM

This passed by 111 votes. We got stuck with the Aquatic Center by 113 votes.

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marka12

Feb-06-13 1:49 AM

Great news!!

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