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Weighs in on gun control

February 19, 2013

To the editor: It seems like all the king’s men, referring to the congressional men, nor the president will buck the NRA to solve the gun violence in the USA. That is one half of the problem....

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BigSlik1944

Feb-22-13 11:13 AM

And bububud, I see you haven't answered my question about where BHO's concern on gun control when he was a state Senator in Illinois and Chicago was his "adopted" home town. Could it be that at the time he didn't care, or wasn't it just in his "agenda" at the time?!

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BigSlik1944

Feb-22-13 11:03 AM

bububud - you made this too easy. Why am you zstill hearing the "Twilight Zone" theme song? Because that is exactly where you are living.

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MadVette

Feb-22-13 10:55 AM

My last comment include h e l l and it was bleeped out.

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MadVette

Feb-22-13 10:54 AM

Most of us so called gun nuts are not paranoid. We are facing reality. Governments do attack and subdue their own people. Just look around at what rights we have already lost in the name of national security and political correctness. The TSA is really nothing but a modern Gestapo. They can make your life*****just for disagreeing with them. Check out the little 3 yr. girl in a wheelchair that was traumatized. When her family wanted to film them searching her they were confronted and told they couldn't. What about the latest proposal in DC where the govt wants to come into your house to make sure your "dangerous" weapons are properly secured. Don't kid yourself, if we have some major economic meltdown we will be happy we own weapons. What happens when more people get freebies than can support them? I am not talking retirees either. Free rent, free food, free phones. It can only be supported so long.

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MadVette

Feb-22-13 10:43 AM

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bububud

Feb-22-13 9:46 AM

soundco...I imagine you sit up all night peering out your window with your AR-15 in one hand and your government paranoia right wing handbook in the other waiting for the imagined black helicopters to land in your yard, or maybe you actually saw a drone fly over? Get some sleep...you'll feel better after a loooong nap! Why am I hearing the "Twilight Zone" theme song?

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bububud

Feb-22-13 12:36 AM

Whatever...American's demand change as indicated by the polls. Maybe "lawful" gun owners could suggest ways to reduce the killing instead of maintaining the status quo. Got any? More guns isn't the answer American's are looking for! I guarantee, another massacre will be the breaking point. None of those of the past involved criminals, just the guy or guys next door! Better start suggesting change American's can accept or you will get change you won't like! All of the blood isn't what our founding fathers had in mind with the 2nd amendment. Abuse the freedom, lose the freedom!

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Whatever

Feb-21-13 10:34 PM

Alright bub...I sat in front of the TV during Columbine and cried for those families, I did the same when Tim McVeigh took it upon himself to murder 168 innocent people - 19 of them children - with a fertilizer bomb. I truly find what happened in Newtown more than horrific- but the stats show that the gun control laws do not work. Chicago is the largest anti-gun city in the US and on average there are 10 homicides every weekend. They just recorded their 500th murder guess how many were school age kids - 440. Not all at once mind you but those parents are also mourning the loss of their children in a city that boasts the strictest of gun regulations. Now tell me that it will work, tell me that strict gun laws will keep my child from being murdered by some crazy human being who kills just for the thrill of it. Hobby? No - I will protect my children from harm with my gun that has been legally obtained and licensed!

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Whenever

Feb-21-13 10:27 PM

Bub, I believe the point Whatever was making was that a person does not need a gun to commit a senseless act. Both are horrific. All the survivors will be scarred for life. It was not the weapon chosen, it was the freak with it. How many were killed in Oklahoma City? How many guns were used? Criminals are criminals and no gun law will change it. They can however make it harder for me to defend my family. And THAT ain't cool. Sheep are unaware there are wolves on the loose. I will not give up my ability to protect my lambs. Even if the blind like you will never see.

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bububud

Feb-21-13 10:12 PM

hbockoven...??????...tiredofbs...I live in a district that elected the likes of Steve King, that says alot! What national poll not tied to the NRA can you cite that says differently on this issue?...Whatever...The difference in the China incident and Connecticut, though both horrific, is that the parents in China saw their children come home rather than having to visit them in the graveyard. Anyone who can't grasp that difference is let's say...ignorant! To those like you, the memory of the dead will soon fade as you continue with your hobby. They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time, right? Change is coming, bud! You can count on it! Getting 2 "disagrees" when asking how many children died in China says something about where your supporters are coming from!

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mountainman

Feb-21-13 9:52 PM

bububud-you are so funny or mental. anyone who thinks anonther law is going to make the bad guy not able to buy a gun from his buddy or steal one is not all there.

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Whatever

Feb-21-13 9:19 PM

Bub - Are you kidding me? So because those kids did not die the horrific attack is less horrific. When anyone makes it a point to target and harm a group of young innocent children the only outcome is tragedy regardless of fatality numbers. You are a truly ignorant person, who honestly needs to look into researching deeply into the things you are standing up for...because I am fairly positive that those you are siding with would prefer that you just crawl back in your hole.

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tiredofbs

Feb-21-13 8:32 PM

If this comment page was a poll, Bubs side is in the minority. Us, "the minority" according to Bub, seem to be the majority on most other news comment pages as well. Seems to contradict the polls most news outlets have been dreaming up lately that Bub keeps referencing. Hmmm.

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bububud

Feb-21-13 6:51 PM

Whatever...How many of the stabbed children died?

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Whatever

Feb-21-13 5:48 PM

Bub- concern for the victims? You need to read up on the crazy idiot that stabbed/injured 23 elementary students in China. Now if that happened here would you be the first to jump on the "put restrictions on those who own knives" band wagon? Are you thinking about the victims then? In China you cannot own a gun - now I am thinking that if anyone of those people had been armed it would have saved the the children from experiencing so much horror. Now if you seriously think that these new gun laws will keep the nutjobs from getting a gun than you are living in a skewed reality. Any moron who is set on causing terror and pain by using a gun will get one regardless of the laws. Do you know why...because they are criminals and the law means nothing to them. So if and when these laws happen and another spree comes around, what will be your answer then because it will happen - when is the only question.

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BigSlik1944

Feb-21-13 4:42 PM

And NoJoke, I did a lot of research and the "gun" that BHO was using is actually a Co2 gun. Take a good look at the yellow on the end of the barrel and the gas escaping out the right-hand port near the front.

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Anderson

Feb-21-13 4:19 PM

It takes a two-thirds vote in the Senate and House plus three-fourths of the state legislatures to change the Constitution for good reason, bubu - to protect our Creator-given rights, including that of self defense, from authoritarians left and right - and the President has no roll in the process, for exactly the same reason.

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bububud

Feb-21-13 4:15 PM

HawkDodger...I must represent a real fear to gun owners to be rewarded with such a lengthy response. My, my! Despite the polls, I said ya'll could keep your guns and high capacity clips, but access prevention/security become paramount. Called compromise! Is that too much to ask? Not all gun owners are responsible...liability for lax security hopefully makes them so. The Connecticut killer had easy access to his mother's gun! Children who had easy access to daddy's gun have killed others including themselves! We will let the courts determine what constitutes "easy access" and degree of liability. No BG checks? The door is wide open to criminals, felons or mentally disturbed. No registration benefit illegal activity and criminals! Your preferred status quo just means continued massacres. American's are demanding change! Concern for the victims has become the priority.

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Whenever

Feb-21-13 3:47 PM

The fact that "assault weapons" account for less than 3% of the firearms deaths means nothing to the folks trying to make them illegal and it just means those following the politicians are merely sheep without the ability to think for themselves. If Heaven forbid, I am attacked and need a firearm to defend myself or my family, I don't know how many bullets I may need....But I will need them bad and I don't think I will be thinking about counting them! On the flip side, a nutjob in a school rampage with no one shooting back can drop one mag and insert another at their leisure. A ban on mags will solve nothing.

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NOJOKE1

Feb-21-13 3:18 PM

As Joe Biden said, “We need tougher gun laws because we don’t have the law enforcement, or manpower to enforce the ones we have…and if you want to defend yourself, get a double barrel shotgun.” I guess that’s what his Secret Service agents will be carrying soon...like the one Obama used in the picture of him shooting clay pigeons – or was he really shooting back during his last gun-free trip to Chicago. Want gun control – start with prosecuting our beloved and fellow Chicagoan – Attorney General Eric Holder. I heard Mexico has a fast and furious warrant out for his arrest.

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HawkDodger

Feb-21-13 2:42 PM

The assault weapons ban? You can spray camouflage on a Hummer H2, it doesn’t make it a military vehicle. Similarly, you can add a pistol grip, a folding stock, or a bayonet mount to doll-up a semi-automatic hunting rifle, but it isn’t any deadlier(fact), and it sure doesn’t make it a military issue fully automatic weapon. Furthermore, Bazooka Joe Biden admits this ban won’t work. He admits that it won’t bring deaths down by even 1,000 a year. So your answer is that we try? It is estimated that there are more than 22,000 Federal and State gun control laws in this country. You’ve tried and tried and tried. It is all just liberal self gratification, it feels good, but in the end you are not doing anything!

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HawkDodger

Feb-21-13 2:42 PM

Be honest, this policy(which isn’t realistic or up for a vote so I don’t know why it keeps being brought up) is a deliberate attempt to intimidate responsible and legal gun owners into either permanently locking up or getting rid of their firearms. As for the idea of compromise, where was it Bububud? Nothing that you have stated was a compromise or would work. Additional background checks and registration? They won’t catch the illegal sales that account for upwards of 70% of gun related crime. Additionally, the current law already has a mandatory prison sentence of up to 20 years in the event a firearm is used in a violent or drug trafficking crime. A second conviction on a violent crime, 1st degree murder, or if your firearm is automatic and/or has a suppressor carries a mandatory LIFE sentence without release. As I have stated before, a person with murder in their heart does not care about the consequences of paper shield that you are proposing.

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HawkDodger

Feb-21-13 2:41 PM

Bububud – “(I) asked for access prevention/home security or face liability (opposed).” This is an idiotic idea that sure as heck is not a compromise and only would serve to prevent legal owners from carrying their weapons and victimize legal owners twice for the actions of criminals taking their property. Can you name anything else that once stolen from me, I would be held liable for if it was used in the act of another crime? Let’s use the example of the sportsman on a hunting trip. He stops for a bathroom break at a 7/11 and his locked vehicle is broken into. His shotgun is taken from the locked car, assembled, loaded, and then used to rob that store. How exactly is he liable? A woman who legally carries a revolver for protection is mugged and the purse containing her weapon is stolen from her. She reports the pistol as stolen, but weeks, months, or years later it is used in a murder. Would she face jail time?

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BigSlik1944

Feb-21-13 1:44 PM

Well, bububud, I wasn't going to waste my time with you but answer me this; Where was Obama's concern over gun deaths when he was a Senator in Illinois? Or was he too busy "organizing"?

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bububud

Feb-21-13 11:00 AM

According to a most recent USA Today poll, 56% of Americans favor a ban on assault type guns and 53% favor a ban on high capacity clips. An even higher number, I believe 83%, favors background checks on all gun sales. Most respondants here oppose the will of the majority of Americans. I have agreed to BG checks but have also included registration (I wish they would ask that question). I supported gun proponents keeping their guns and clips (got no thank you) but also asked for access prevention/home security or face liability (opposed). I've proposed better staffing/funding of law enforcement and stricter penalties in dealing with illegal gun sales and criminals (opposed). Compromise (opposed). Another massacre will drive those poll numbers even higher. The American majority favors new gun control laws, so I guess it comes down to the "will of the people!" The Republican answer to that is the filibuster and that means more blood on our streets. Mark it down, buds!

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