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Some frank talk about the sequester

March 11, 2013

Federal spending cuts labeled “the sequester” will be a terrible calamity, the White House warned during the weeks before they kicked in on March 1....

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Anderson

Mar-23-13 3:37 PM

Think so, marv? Wait 'til some shister legal beagle compliance officers get the hang of that 7 ft (and growing) stack of HHS regs - once they've digested those 2,700 page of the ACA itself, of course. What an invitation to fraud - as, for example, with those 90,000 farmers who have now sought restitution payments for discrimination out of a total of only 39,000 black farmers (census data) under Obama & Vilsack's expanded civil rights program. Tight management there, for sure!

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marvin

Mar-22-13 6:35 AM

Maybe the hospitals are ripping us off?

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Anderson

Mar-15-13 3:09 PM

Those WERE cuts from a program, Cranky, jbut NOT from federal expenditure; the sequester cuts will be both program AND total govt expenditures, i.e. real cuts. a difference you seem not to comprehend. Better open your window to clear your (?)mind.

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HawkDodger

Mar-14-13 11:48 PM

Ok, fine Messenger. ROTFLM Rear End Off.

@ jamesf - I don't know about you, but my net health care plan costs went up more than 5X from 2012. Because of Obamacare's new minimum reimbursement rate and the "essential health benefit" requirements, the cost of my plan went up and money that was contributed to my HSA went down. Yet another way the government expects us to do with less, while they are never willing to do the same.

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HawkDodger

Mar-14-13 11:26 PM

Senility and paranoia in addition to an undeserved arrogance, that's CrankyGma for you. No facts, no debate, just insults and deflection. I am ROTF**** at your suggestion that Anderson and I are the same person. It is soooooo funny that you would accuse either of us of sock puppetry while, save 1 post from Brucee, you are the only lib bothering to troll this forum; yet the agrees? I guess since Cranky has no friends, she needs to make some up to agree and feel good about herself. Tragic.

$950k to NASA for a Mars menu that won't be used until the 2030's, $325k to fight robotic squirrel and rattlesnakes, $1.5M to research the ergonomics of video game controllers. The yearly wastebook is full of bad joke programs government wastes money on. But talk about cutting $0.02 on the dollar and panic. Automatically we are cutting meat inspectors, school teachers, and police. Time to wake up America and see what this failure of a leader continues to waste our money on.

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NOJOKE1

Mar-14-13 10:37 PM

Hawk, You just branded a new name: President Hope A Dope (He has a lot of hope & smoked a lot of dope). Mr. President Hope a Dope! Cranky, could that be your sir name too? May G-d bless America & Cranky too.

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jamesf

Mar-14-13 8:06 PM

Cranky, mabey you should change your tag to insanegrandma. Have you heard about the health care costs going thru the roof in "14"?

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Flatzz

Mar-14-13 7:58 PM

Granny, Hawk offered facts and statistics to support his argument.

So far, all you have offered is "Anderson is wrong"

Could you offer any facts and statistics to support your point of view?

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CrankyGrandma

Mar-14-13 6:09 PM

Once more, then you two can go sit in front of the window and wait for bedtime.

YOU screamed about the "medicare cuts" a year ago, Andy. YOU.

This is what I pointed out.

Your hypocrisy.

Pretending like you knew ALL ALONG that they weren't really "cuts" to bolster your blustering today does not negate the fact. YOU said they were "cuts".

I really do have something better to do than laugh at you two - or is that you ONE?

You see, I only need ONE name to slap you down, Andy.

Game over. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Anderson

Mar-14-13 5:12 PM

HawkD - It's hard to have a substantive discussion with Cranky (and a few others) here without getting the Saul Alynski/Obama inspired personal abuse. As a matter of principle with leftists, "turnabout is NOT fair play;" I just a believe the original adage sometime applies.

As for you, Cranky, it was you who brought up the false comparison between sham of expenditure "cuts" in Medicare, which was merely to cover costs of Obamacare, with the real cuts of sequestration. For some needed elucidation, you and other econ illiterates can read (or download) for free "Economics in One Lesson" at "fee dot org," i.e. Foundation for Economic Education. It could be a "3rd book"!

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HawkDodger

Mar-14-13 4:04 PM

I haven’t seen this many HAHA’s since my last Batman. That Joker had to laugh at his own jokes too. You don’t get it Cranky, I said that all you have is insults. You two just criticize, scapegoat, troll, and name call. You don’t refute arguments; you don’t make your own points or offer your own solutions. Wow, are you related to Obama?

Some of the cuts will supposedly furlough meat inspectors, but the USDA is still hiring interns at $30k -$80k? $250 Million sent to Egypt and Obama takes a 21 car convoy 1/4 mile to dinner, but we close the White House to tours? And this admin is still on track to spend $15 Billion more than in 2012. This President’s priorities are out of order.

If you want to insult me, go ahead CG. I’m thick skinned enough to take it, but after these actions you can’t be thick headed enough to still believe that any of the bedlam that this Chicken Little President has been crying about is actually going to happen. Actions speak louder than liberal spin.

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CrankyGrandma

Mar-14-13 2:29 PM

But to answer your foolishly obvious question, Hawk, nobody is going to "replace" these cuts in federal funding. Do you really think Terry the Midget Dictator is going to allow that? Or worse yet the crackpots in the House?

Really?

Do you have the interwebs? TV?

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CrankyGrandma

Mar-14-13 2:26 PM

(This is great!)

Hawk sez: "In the end, all the two of you have are insults spawned by your hate, fear, avarice, and idiocy. Maybe if the two of you trolls would pick up a book, you could quit parroting lines from MSNBC and learn to think for yourselves."

Did you catch that? He is sniffing at us for "using insults" by insulting us.

Is that the best ever? You guys are going to go into kidney failure if you don't simmer down! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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HawkDodger

Mar-14-13 11:59 AM

Brucee, did the Messenger come up with such whoppers as: “Guantanamo will be closed no later than one year from now.” “If you like your current health care plan, you can keep it.” “Taxes will not go up on those making under $250,000.” Nope, those were just a few of the greatest hits from the Dope of Hope himself.

In the end, all the two of you have are insults spawned by your hate, fear, avarice, and idiocy. Maybe if the two of you trolls would pick up a book, you could quit parroting lines from MSNBC and learn to think for yourselves.

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HawkDodger

Mar-14-13 11:59 AM

Brucee and CG, I just have to laugh at both of you. None of your comments have done anything to advance the original anti-sequester argument that this state cannot get by with a reduction in the amount of money it is getting from the Federal Government. Remember 46 Million Dollars, Cranky? Why can’t the State of Iowa or the Federal Government do with one or two pennies less per dollar spent? Plus, the State of Iowa was running a surplus of something close to $650 Million last Oct. Couldn’t we use some of that money and still come out ahead?

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Brucee

Mar-14-13 10:26 AM

To CG: please give up on these trolls please, they know not. This paper teases these bone heads with lies and false statements and then the hate juices comes out and away they go on another fantasy trip to the land of conservative hash. Forgive them CG for they no not and never ever will.. andy is your kite broke or are you out of books of distrust. Get the motorhome warmed up and take a trip somewhere far away please...

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CrankyGrandma

Mar-13-13 6:09 PM

One more time, Anderson. And try to pay attention.

The point I have made repeatedly, and the one you are trying to deflect from, is that YOU have situational ethics. The numbers game is the same, but your reactions were completely different.

Why? Because you are a hypocrite. It has nothing to do with economics, although I have been running circles around you for a while on that issue. Nay, this is about hypocrisy. Yours.

You don't give two hoots about the economy, even if you DID understand it. You just hate Democrats.

No clothes ONCE AGAIN, Emperor Andy.

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Anderson

Mar-13-13 6:05 PM

Yes, cranky, a REAL cut to Medicare as part of the false calculation that supported the DEMS claim that Obamacare would not only add nothing to the deficit but actually SAVE money, and we know the LIE that was. In no way is Medicare OR Obamacare affected by the sequester. With leftists like you it is always pure legerdemain. For heaven's sake get Economics in One Lesson and READ it before trying to address economic issues again.

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gssmms

Mar-13-13 3:09 PM

Don't know what you guys are all lathered up about. Prez. O himself this morning said there's no debt problem.

"We don't have an immediate crisis in terms of debt," President Obama said in an exclusive interview with George Stephanopoulos for "Good Morning America." "In fact, for the next 10 years, it's gonna be in a sustainable place."

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CrankyGrandma

Mar-13-13 12:41 PM

But Andy! At the time YOU said Obama was CUTTING medicare! YOU! Remember? You argued with me that about the reality that it was simply recalculated disbursement due to less than anticipated expenditures!

YOU!

And now that it's ANOTHER number shuffle (because it is) you're trying to back peddle your histrionics and muddy the water with pomposity and self-aggrandizing tripe.

Cranky - 1

Andy - 0

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Anderson

Mar-13-13 11:16 AM

Meanwhile, cranky, as Obama & Co., do eat, drink and be merry - your kids and grandkids can pick up the bill.

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Anderson

Mar-13-13 11:10 AM

That wasn't a cut, Cranky, it was a transfer of funds from Medicare to Obamacare, but then I wouldn't expect you to comprehend the difference. Obama only EXPANDS govt spending. Experience tempers what we are taught and read, which is why wisdom comes with age. In the real world, some ideas work; most, do not. So, how about a full CV w/o anonymity if you stand behind what YOU think and write?

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CrankyGrandma

Mar-13-13 10:11 AM

Keep trying to back peddle, Andy. That's what makes this so funny! When reducing the amount of anticipated spending was done by Obama, it was treason - when it's done in the way of sequester by the repubs - the ones refusing to stop it - it's genius.

Your hypocrisy is on display once again!

And regarding my credentials - I lived in Europe and read two books.

That should qualify me as an expert.

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Anderson

Mar-12-13 10:58 PM

Dispute with ignoramuses, not play with big kids, Cranky. One as ignorant of business and economics as you might begin by googling "crusoe economics" to learn how they really functions in language you might understand. Meanwhile, dare you tell us upon what experience or other authority you rest your opinions, or what psychological problems prompt you to so constantly put your ignorance on public display and incessantly append silly personal attacks on every interlocutor? Twelve-year-old, indeed; more like five!

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CrankyGrandma

Mar-12-13 9:00 PM

Good Lord, Andy! Are you seriously this dumb?

First of all, under the health care bill, Medicare spending continues to go up year after year. The health care bill tries to identify ways to save money, and so the $500 billion figure comes from the difference over 10 years between anticipated Medicare spending (what is known as “the baseline”) and the changes the law makes to reduce spending.

THE SAME THING.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You're gettin' too old to play with the big kids, Andy.

And you can't spell. Time to wheel back in your room.

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