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Sups discuss smoking policy

Seek uniform guidelines for county workers

March 13, 2013

The Webster County Board of Supervisors approved moving forward with adopting a smoking and tobacco use policy for county employees Tuesday....

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jammer

Mar-13-13 2:08 AM

GOOD GREIF....Do you guys ever read what you are quoted as saying? You act like smoking outside is as bad as someone taking a machine gun and mowing people down. HELLO....It's OUTSIDE....you lawmakers need to get a life and stop worrying about outside smokers.

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jammer

Mar-13-13 12:50 PM

It seems to me the law makers want to control every aspect of our lives, even the air we breath. When is enough enough?

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TAXEDENOUGH

Mar-13-13 11:03 PM

Beall and Miller were our elected officials passed this smoking law. At the time it was about smoking inside where employees worked. How did it become law that you can't smoke outside? Who came up with these laws? Was a non-elected official come up with these rules. I have grand kids and my kids smoke but not around their kids when indoors. Now when they go on a trip they can't use the rest stops because you can't smoke outside at them. Thanks Beall & Miller for the added exspense of pullin off the interstate to drive into a gas station so they can get out and have a smoke. That seems a whole lot safer don't it. I guess my children have to have a certain illness like Beall's to get any attention.

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BornRaisedinFD

Mar-14-13 5:12 PM

simple solution...quit smoking! Smoking has been proven harmful to your health. Second hand smoke is also harmful. If you would like to help a smoker quit rent them an oxygen tank on wheels for a few weeks and have them haul that around for a while. Smoking IS harmful to your health. It can be avoided. If you want to smoke do it someplace where others (including children) don't have to breath it. If you don't smoke around your kids why should you smoke around mine? And please don't use cars or some other lame excuse to try to bolster your argument. We are talking about smoking.

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jammer

Mar-14-13 6:37 PM

BRFD, That's not the issue here. Of course we all know it would be better if everyone quit. The issue here is county workers not being able to smoke outside on the county property. Surly your children or mine will not be hanging around on county property where the workers are. Or would yours? If your so afraid your children may breath cig. Smoke outside then it is YOUR responsibility to keep them away from such places. The knife cuts both ways. By the way you should reread what you wrote. It sounds pretty rediculous. And for the record, I'm an X smoker 5 years now, but I will fight for the rights of others to smoke!

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BornRaisedinFD

Mar-14-13 7:20 PM

jammer...your post is the rediculous one! What they are trying to avoid is smokers standing outside the door smoking and people have to walk thru a cloud of smoke to get in the door. They are simply following the Iowa Smoke Free Air Act. The things lawmakers want to control are things that people do that harm others. Try going to a football game and smoke in the stands. People have a right to NOT have to breathe smoke. I too am an ex smoker. Walk off county property and smoke if they want. You have a right to fight for smokers, I have a right to make sure the county follows the Iowa Clean Air Act!

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truthhurts

Mar-15-13 9:01 AM

does anyone realize how this started? it might have something to do with the considerate county employees that are smokers who spend precious break time in the alley puffing it up. what else is in the alley, how about the air intake for the building. most smokers are some of the most inconsiderate people out there. they don't care about what they're doing to their own bodies, why would they care about anyone else. i have these people come in and try to sell me on whatever all the time that just stink of that last quick smoke they had to have before they walked into my office. automatic no sale by the way. is it that important to smoke? buy some gum and get over it. quit clock watching and work, worry more about your job & less about your bad habits!

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truthhurts

Mar-15-13 9:12 AM

thank beall & miller for the added expense? really? if you were out of cigarettes i'm sure you'd drive miles out of your way to buy some those. once again, selfish. puff it up losers! keep improving your way of life and let the rest of society pay your way through life. sooner or later you can't work due to your lung condition, then what? oh yeah, welfare will pay your way, bills, food, housing, healthcare. but that's beall & miller's fault too, huh? how do you feel about cutting the funds to those on these programs that do smoke?

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jammer

Mar-15-13 12:25 PM

Truth hurts....while we are on the subject of being a burden on society, lets take a look at the fat and obese. I'll just bet more ppl die of weight related problems then the smoker does. Obese ppl are gaining more attention today then smokers are. Yup....give up your right to smoke today and tomorrow you will be giving up your right to eat. You think obese ppl only hurt themselves your wrong, it effects all of us. They drive insurance premiums up, not to mention all the furniture they wreck in public places(I've seen it). Bet you won't find many smokers on welfare because their to obese to work. No...I will fight for smokers rights even if it is outside. See, we can make an argument out of anything that affects our rights. It's already happening...New Yorks ban on super size drinks...what's next?

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jammer

Mar-15-13 5:47 PM

Wow...it just kind of sneaks upon ya doesn't it? Slowly, so nobody really connects the dots. Your absolutely right. Scary isn't it? Already look what their doing with school lunches, it's a take it or leave situation. Do they really think thay are going to stop obesity by changing school lunches? It has to start at home.

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BornRaisedinFD

Mar-15-13 11:14 PM

So what this all comes down to is this is not really an argument about smoking, but an argument about what you THINK the gov't might do in the future? Are you guys this paranoid in your life? really? wow!

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jammer

Mar-16-13 1:22 AM

Well, BRFD, I sure think its worth talking about. 40, 50 years ago government involvement was unheard of. Now it has seeped into every aspect of our lives. Is that what YOU want? I don't, it's my business if I don't eat heart healthy, or smoke and maybe die 10 years early because of it. I don't need the government trying to save me from myself. That is between me and my maker. People are not living longer because of government restrictions, they are living longer because of modern medicine. So their you have it! I feel one way and you feel another...to each his own. I just really feel that as hard as the government tries in the end they will NOT save us from ourselves.

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BornRaisedinFD

Mar-16-13 1:38 AM

jammer..in one post you state that obese people "drive insurance premiums up" and even state obese people are on welfare because they are too fat to work. Now your saying its your business if you want to smoke or become obese? So you don't think people are living longer because of govt restrictions? What about laws like wearing seatbelts? speeding? Safety innovations brought about by govt requirements. Airbags. Cars are way safer than they were 40 years ago. People are living longer because many (including companies) realize it is cheaper to become healthier than to smoke and become obese. Sometime the govt has to protect us from ourselves. If you don't like the govt move to another country.

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jammer

Mar-16-13 2:07 AM

LOL...your funny! Well I'm neither fat or smoke, so I guess I'm safe. As far as cars go, that's a whole different thing. I don't see a lot of protest in the things that you mention, so why did you even bring it.

Like I said you have your opinions and I have mine. So we'll just leave it at that.

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BornRaisedinFD

Mar-16-13 1:05 PM

jammer....you complained about the govt creeping into your life, well get used to it. The govt does lots of things that creep into our daily lives. Most of them are good things! But I'm not paranoid like you.

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BornRaisedinFD

Mar-17-13 7:22 PM

hbockoven...If you don't like it here why don't you move to somewhere like Cuba, Russia, Iran, Iraq or places like that. You will see that we live a pretty free life. It's not the govt's fault you live a regulated life. Try enjoying life a lil more. Relax, in a couple more years you can vote for Sarah again.

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